How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

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I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

I am like a fish out of water,

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Now here in this verse

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

What do men find attractive in an older woman?

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Is it true that most Indian men are gay and they just hide their feelings?

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

What one thing makes someone a very mature person?

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

NOW…

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There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

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Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

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We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

Which bands became massively popular for covering songs rather than recording originals?

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

What can you do if you are a full-grown adult, but never experienced being a child?

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

Why is fitness important?

Sain (a barber)

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

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Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Why does my crush make me jealous about having a girlfriend?

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

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From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

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ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

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The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

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He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

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Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

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ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

then who is there to know what happens without?

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

CONCLUSION:

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Kabir (a weaver)

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.